The Kiwi Gun Blog think that it is now time to evaluate whether the ‘New’ – Now 25 year old – gun law changes have worked.

Police moved from the lifetime license to a ten yearly renewal.

Police then also began regular harassment – excuse us – ‘Random checks’ of shooter’s newly restricted weapons.

This has been expensive.

This has taken Police away from crime solving.

Has it made us any safer?

The Kiwi Gun Blog has asked the Police the following:

  1. How many people are declined for cause when they apply to renew their license at the ten year mark? In other words, how many bad shooters does the system ‘Catch’ each year.

  2. How many random ‘checks’ have been performed on endorsement holders in the last year­ – in all districts?

  3. How many crimes were discovered as a result?

  4. How many missing restricted weapons were discovered as a result?

 

This information will show – all politics aside – if the sacrifices to our liberty and budgets have been worth it.

Or if, as shooters warned, it was an utter waste of time.

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Superintendent Scahill (Shown above) responded….

We are still waiting for a Police response to the first question – the most important one.

But here is the official Police response to the others.

“Police do not routinely carry out random checks on firearm endorsement holders, however they can do so as Regulation 29 affords police officers the ability to inspect such firearms and the place where they are kept”.

Right… Well that is a lie.

This writer had such a needless ‘Check’ only weeks ago. Yes, there were errors in the records.

Another contributor to the blog also had such a needless ‘Check’ only weeks ago. Yes, there were errors in the records.

Lurch then immediately contradicts himself in the following paragraph:

“Police do have a policy requirement for routine audits as a matter of good business practice. These are usually tasked to and carried out by vettors”.

Now check this out:

“The information on random and routine audits is entered in the National Intelligence Application database against each individuals licence in the form of free text.

Accordingly, your request for the number of random “checks” on endorsement holders in the last year by district is refused pursuant to section 18(g) of the Official Information Act 1982, in that it is not held”.

Did you get that?

The Police don’t do random checks. While doing them.

The Police then record the information. While not having it.

So here we go again….

It really is just not good enough for the Police to constantly admit that they have the information that we need – but in a form that will require ‘Collation’.

Then claim this means that they will need to ‘Generate new data’ and therefore can deny any Official Information Request.

Police exist in districts. By definition – collation is almost always required. That gives them Carte blanche to ignore the law.

The effort required to answer Official Information Requests is usually token. The Police are the only ones being paid here, by us, so how about they just honor the law?

What About the Crime Solving figures?

How many crimes were discovered as a result of the audits? 

How many missing restricted weapons were discovered as a result?

Lurch responds:

“Information on either crimes or on restricted weapons discovered from random and routine audits may be entered in the National Intelligence Application database against each individual licence in the form of free text.

Therefore, your request for the number of the crimes or restricted weapons discovered from random ‘checks’ on endorsement holders in the last year by districts is refused pursuant to section 18(g) of the Official Information Act 1982, as the information requested is not held.

That is, this information is not quantitatively recorded in police databases . Thus, your request necessitates analysis of qualitative data to generate new data in the form that you request and the Official Information Act 1982 does not require agencies to create information for the purposes of answering requests”.

Same again.

Apparently ‘Looking at the data you have’ is now considered ‘Generating new data’.

The Kiwi Gun Blog has appealed to the Ombudsman.

Conclusion

The Police can not show ANY benefit to the random checks of lawful shooters.

The Kiwi Gun Blog have previously pointed out that the betrayal of the old license system cost the government control of at least 25,000 shooters.

Police have since admitted to the Blog that they really have no idea of the true number.

We have also shown that Police have failed to even follow up on THOUSANDS of expired licenses under the current system.

Will we now discover that the reality of the existing system – Is that it serves no real purpose other than to inconvenience lawful shooters and steal Police resources?

Surely if that is the case then we must SERIOUSLY consider a return to the proven 1983 laws. The ones that worked.

That, coupled with the realistic sentencing of armed offenders, is surely the undeniable solution to every issue currently faced in the gun debate.

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