Police Union DESPERATE to Revive Rejected Anti Shooter Recommendations

From the Police Association Media Center:

POLICE ASSOCIATION URGES POLITICIANS TO RETHINK ONLINE FIREARMS SALES

NZPA | Mon July 31st, 2017

Police Association President Chris Cahill says last week’s tragic shootings in Northland should serve as an opportune time for politicians to take another look at the recommendations from the Law and Order Select Committee Inquiry into the Illegal Possession of Firearms in New Zealand.

“The Committee recommended a registration process for websites facilitating trading in firearms, parts or ammunition.  This would give us assurance that online purchasing regimes would have necessary protections, but politicians rejected registration,” Mr Cahill said.

Currently the Police Association’s policy is to ban online sales of firearms.

It is a view based on the fact that the existing system falls short in terms of protections in two vital areas – it doesn’t ensure that all people purchasing firearms are licensed, and, it doesn’t guarantee that the firearms actually purchased end up in the hands of the person whose licence is identified in that online purchase.

The Association of course accepts that online marketplaces for all types of goods are now an established element in retailing.

However, Mr Cahill says before the Association would consider easing its position with respect to online trading of firearms, it would need to be satisfied significant improvements are made to ensure only clearly identifiable licensed firearms owners are capable of purchasing and receiving firearms.

“Unfortunately we have been made all too aware of the fact that online traders are not able to verify that the licence provided to them is the licence of the actual purchaser,” he said.

“We acknowledge TradeMe is attempting to work with Police to access the firearms licence database in order to better ensure the credentials of online purchasers.  We also acknowledge TradeMe shares the Association’s view that there should be a register of all firearms serial numbers.”

“The Association would go further and ask that the permit to procure be extended to cover all sales or transfers of firearms, as recommended by the Select Committee.  That would give us more confidence in the security of online purchasing regimes, and we may adjust our position accordingly,” Mr Cahill said.

Shhhhh.

Let it go Chris.

Let it go……

f3

8 responses to “Police Union DESPERATE to Revive Rejected Anti Shooter Recommendations”

  1. Any online sail leaves a electronic paper trail
    e mail bank account details and other stuff that enables the purchaser and seller to be identified so offenders can be tracked both sellers and buyers
    trade me are working on a further level of verification more akin to the instant background checks in the US but lets hope they can keep the data base secure

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  2. Trade Me sales of firearms are the MOST public and ‘transparent’ method of firearms sales. Anyone can observe the transaction and both buyer and seller details are recorded and verified (address/email) by Trade Me and so available to Police by warranted search.

    THAT is far more detailed and unavoidable than any Dealers face to face records … BTW

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  3. Cahill is full of it. Determined crooks would just use a clean associate with a license to make purchases, so would circumvent this in SECONDS. For the rest of us (who follow the law anyway), it’s just another way for the Police to get control and start implementing more pointless hoops to jump through. Once Police control the transfer of all legal firearms (between already fit and proper people) how long before they would suggest waiting periods and limits on how many firearms could be bought in a certain time period, how many firearms of a certain type you could have etc.

    Controlling transfers means registration, the wet dream of all civilian disarmament extremists.

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  4. If they really cared they would have listened to me 4 years ago when I told them how to defeat the mail-order form system to obtain a firearm and have it completely untraceable, along with how to manufacture multiple pistols on a single import permit. But noooo the police boffins at HQ were smart and apprently knew about all this…..flash forward to today and very little has changed with police and customs processes, all easily defeatable and totally untraceable.

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  5. “It is a view based on the fact that the existing system falls short in terms of protections in two vital areas – it doesn’t ensure that all people purchasing firearms are licensed, and, it doesn’t guarantee that the firearms actually purchased end up in the hands of the person whose licence is identified in that online purchase.

    The Association of course accepts that online marketplaces for all types of goods are now an established element in retailing.”

    1.TM, their main target requires me to have an FAL number to enquire about optics on a rifle for
    sale let alone place a bid on said firearm.

    2. Who was that fella who purchased upwards of 50 firearms (In person) to convert them cut
    downs with pistol grips to onsell to his good mates with an interest in big thumping bikes?
    Purchases made with colletion in person still require an FAL to be sighted (that funny card with
    your picture on it – kinda hard to forge) Those sent by courier still require purchaser to front
    local Police station with form one hand and funny card mentioned earlier in other.

    3. Retail are the least of your worries having the most (their livelyhood) to loose.

    Deliberatly Obtuse are two words that spring to mind. “Scare Mongering so and so” also.

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  6. None of that will be happening on our watch.

    The end.

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    1. i like the NZ gun community , keep it up guys and well done , don’t let anyone harass you

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      1. It does feel like the masses have finally had enough.

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