Tyrant Prime Minister Kills Sport Shooting

It began with Jacinda Adern calling our existing gun laws “Weak”.

Then things escalated fast.

All MSSA rifles are banned.

All ‘Assault rifles’ are banned. We are unsure how these are different from the above MSSA.

All high capacity magazines are banned.

All “Parts that convert a semi automatic into a military style semiautomatic weapon are banned”. So stocks?

All “Parts that cause a gun to have semiautomatic fire. Automatic fire. Or close to automatic fire” are banned. Bump stocks? What makes a gun shoot semi automatically except the factory?

Legislation is being drafted and will be introduced under urgency.

A “Shortened select committee process will apply”. You spoil us.

Anyone who wishes to submit is urged to “Start now”.

Her goal is to have the deal sealed by the 11th of April.

Absolutely outrageous.

A law made in secret. With consultations with unknown people. With subject matter experts told to stay out of it. Developed over mere days. Now to be rushed past Parliament a Fait accompli.

However, the Prime Minister believes that she enjoys the support of all. The public and shooters alike.

As at 3pm 21.3.19 an order in council is in effect. All semi auto rifles are now MSSA rifles. Nobody can get one without a permit. No permit will be issued.

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So – we just lost semi auto rifles.

It was stressed that this is an “Interim measure” before the formal raping.

There will be “Legalized exemptions for DOC hunters” BUT it was stressed that these will be rare.

It was boasted that we will now be like Australia. Because…. they are the measure apparently.

There will be a buyback. Details are being developed.

“Fair and reasonable compensation” will be paid.

It is unsure when.

It seems that they get the guns first THEN pay later. What they want to pay.

Are scopes and silencers and magazines covered? Fancy mag pouches for competition?

Effected shooters are to visit here:

Details on the Police website here.

The PM “Acknowledged that many shooters have acted inside the law”.

No.

We ALL have.

A form will appear in 48 hours.

Fill in the form to arrange handing in your guns for destruction.

It is unknown if ‘Grey guns’ are covered under amnesty. Or if they will receive compensation.

It was stressed that there are penalties for resistance.

$4000 and in 3 years in prison.

But these will be increased!

A ‘Reasonable period” will be allowed for hand ins.

BUT these guns are only ‘Part of the problem’.

On Monday her cabinet will entertain more of the gun grabber’s wish-list.

These horrors can be expected later in stage two of the raping.

“Just the beginning of the work we need to do”.

I lost track of the number of times that she said ‘Rural’ shooters are OK.

Divide and conquer or deals already done?

The PM took the time to thank the scum among us who betrayed the oldest sport in the nation. Who sold us out. You will be remembered.

No mention was made of new revelations that the attack was in fact caused by Police failure in vetting.

More as we know it.

There in no democracy in New Zealand.

When asked if people would get a chance to have their say in the nation’s new laws the PM replied only that she was confident of the support of many.

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Are handguns exempt?

Not in the wording they are not….

 

The government has no idea of cost but estimate “Between 100 – 200 million dollars”. They are obviously dreaming.

Government is looking at total registration.

Police have the puppet strings.

Police Minister Stuart Nash threatens that Police WILL be doing record searches and chasing people.

International advice was received……..

 

Beehive Press Release

New Zealand bans military style semi-automatics and assault rifles

  • Jacinda Ardern
    RT HON JACINDA ARDERN
  • Stuart Nash
    HON STUART NASH

 

  • Military style semi-automatics and assault rifles banned under stronger gun laws
  • Immediate action to prevent stock-piling

Military style semi-automatics and assault rifles will be banned in New Zealand under stronger new gun laws announced today, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says.

“On 15 March our history changed forever. Now, our laws will too. We are announcing action today on behalf of all New Zealanders to strengthen our gun laws and make our country a safer place,” Jacinda Ardern said.

“Cabinet agreed to overhaul the law when it met on Monday, 72 hours after the horrific terrorism act in Christchurch. Now, six days after this attack, we are announcing a ban on all military style semi-automatics (MSSA) and assault rifles in New Zealand.

“Related parts used to convert these guns into MSSAs are also being banned, along with all high-capacity magazines.

“An amnesty will be put in place for weapons to be handed in, and Cabinet has directed officials to develop a buyback scheme. Further details will be announced on the buyback in due course.

“All semi-automatic weapons used during the terrorist attack on Friday 15 March will be banned.

“I strongly believe that the vast majority of legitimate gun owners in New Zealand will understand that these moves are in the national interest, and will take these changes in their stride.

“When Australia undertook similar reforms, their approach was to allow for exemptions for farmers upon application, including for pest control and animal welfare. We have taken similar action to identify the weapons legitimately required in those areas, and preclude them.

“Legislation to give effect to the ban will be introduced when Parliament sits in the first week of April. We will provide a short, sharp Select Committee process for feedback on the technical aspects of the changes. We are looking to progress the amendments to this legislation under urgency and expect these amendments to the Arms Act to be passed within the next session of Parliament,” Jacinda Ardern said.

“The Bill will include narrow exemptions for legitimate business use, which would include professional pest control. Police and the Defence Force will also have exemptions. Issues like access for mainstream international sporting competitions are also being worked through,” Police Minister Stuart Nash said.

“We have also acknowledged that some guns serve legitimate purposes in our farming communities, and have therefore set out exemptions for 0.22 calibre rifles and shotguns commonly used for duck hunting. These will have limitations around their capacity.

“While the legislation is being drafted, I am announcing the Government will take immediate action today to restrict the potential stock-piling of these guns and encourage people to continue to surrender their firearms.

Earlier this afternoon, an Order in Council under section 74A(c) of the Arms Act was signed by the Governor-General to reclassify a wider range of semi-automatic weapons under the Act. It came into effect at 3pm today.

“This interim measure will ensure that all of the weapons being banned under amendments to the Arms Act are now categorised as weapons requiring an E endorsement on a firearms licence.

“The effect of this is that it will prevent the sale of MSSAs and assault rifles to people with A category gun licences. The Order in Council is a transitional measure until the wider ban takes effect.

“We are introducing transitionary measures for gun owners to hand in their guns to Police to hold until details of a buy-back are announced. Likewise, the Police continue to accept guns for destruction.

“Again, we encourage gun owners to phone in to Police ahead of time to advise them they are bringing their guns in to the station,” Stuart Nash said.

“The actions announced today are the first step of the Government’s response. We will continue to develop stronger and more effective licensing rules, storage requirements and penalties for not complying with gun regulations. It is the Government’s intention that these amendments will go through the full legislative process,” Jacinda Ardern said.

“To owners who have legitimate uses for their guns, I want to reiterate that the actions being announced today are not because of you, and are not directed at you. Our actions, on behalf of all New Zealanders, are directed at making sure this never happens again.”

 

Press Briefing Notes

21 March 2019 PĀNUI PĀPĀHO

MEDIA STATEMENT

 

 

 New Zealand bans military style semi-automatics and assault rifles

  • Military style semi-automatics and assault rifles banned under stronger gun laws
  • Immediate action to prevent stock-piling

Military style semi-automatics and assault rifles will be banned in New Zealand under stronger new gun laws announced today, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says.

“On 15 March our history changed forever. Now, our laws will too. We are announcing action today on behalf of all New Zealanders to strengthen our gun laws and make our country a safer place,” Jacinda Ardern said.

“Cabinet agreed to overhaul the law when it met on Monday, 72 hours after the horrific terrorism act in Christchurch. Now, six days after this attack, we are announcing a ban on all military style semi-automatics (MSSA) and assault rifles in New Zealand.

“Related parts used to convert these guns into MSSAs are also being banned, along with all high-capacity magazines.

“An amnesty will be put in place for weapons to be handed in, and Cabinet has directed officials to develop a buyback scheme. Further details will be announced on the buyback in due course.

“All semi-automatic weapons used during the terrorist attack on Friday 15 March will be banned.

“I strongly believe that the vast majority of legitimate gun owners in New Zealand will understand that these moves are in the national interest, and will take these changes in their stride.

“When Australia undertook similar reforms, their approach was to allow for exemptions for farmers upon application, including for pest control and animal welfare. We have taken similar action to identify the weapons legitimately required in those areas, and preclude them.

“Legislation to give effect to the ban will be introduced when Parliament sits in the first week of April. We will provide a short, sharp Select Committee process for feedback on the technical aspects of the changes. We are looking to progress the amendments to this legislation under urgency and expect these amendments to the Arms Act to be passed within the next session of Parliament,” Jacinda Ardern said.

“The Bill will include narrow exemptions for legitimate business use, which would include professional pest control. Police and the Defence Force will also have exemptions. Issues like access for mainstream international sporting competitions are also being worked through,” Police Minister Stuart Nash said.

“We have also acknowledged that some guns serve legitimate purposes in our farming communities, and have therefore set out exemptions for 0.22 calibre rifles and shotguns commonly used for duck hunting. These will have limitations around their capacity.

“While the legislation is being drafted, I am announcing the Government will take immediate action today to restrict the potential stock-piling of these guns and encourage people to continue to surrender their firearms.

Earlier this afternoon, an Order in Council under section 74A(c) of the Arms Act was signed by the Governor-General to reclassify a wider range of semi-automatic weapons under the Act. It came into effect at 3pm today.

“This interim measure will ensure that all of the weapons being banned under amendments to the Arms Act are now categorised as weapons requiring an E endorsement on a firearms licence.

“The effect of this is that it will prevent the sale of MSSAs and assault rifles to people with A category gun licences. The Order in Council is a transitional measure until the wider ban takes effect.

“We are introducing transitionary measures for gun owners to hand in their guns to Police to hold until details of a buy-back are announced. Likewise, the Police continue to accept guns for destruction.

“Again, we encourage gun owners to phone in to Police ahead of time to advise them they are bringing their guns in to the station,” Stuart Nash said.

“The actions announced today are the first step of the Government’s response. We will continue to develop stronger and more effective licensing rules, storage requirements and penalties for not complying with gun regulations. It is the Government’s intention that these amendments will go through the full legislative process,” Jacinda Ardern said.

“To owners who have legitimate uses for their guns, I want to reiterate that the actions being announced today are not because of you, and are not directed at you. Our actions, on behalf of all New Zealanders, are directed at making sure this never happens again.”

Media contact: Andrew Campbell 021 243 8573

 

Questions and Answers

  1. What semi-automatic firearms will be affected by the ban?

The ban will apply to all firearms are now defined as Military Style Semi-Automatics (MSSAs) and will also include assault rifles.

  1. What semi-automatic firearms will NOT be affected by the ban?

There is a balance to be struck between public safety and legitimate use. The changes exclude two general classes of firearms which are commonly used for hunting, pest control, stock management on farms, and duck shooting:

  • Semi-automatic .22 calibre rimfire firearms with a magazine which holds no more than ten rounds
  • Semi-automatic and pump action shotguns with a non-detachable tubular magazine which holds no more than five rounds
  1. What semi-automatic firearms are affected by today’s Order in Council?

Two types of firearms are now defined as Military Style Semi-Automatics (MSSAs):

  • A semi-automatic firearm capable of being used with a detachable magazine which holds more than five cartridges
  • A semi-automatic shotgun capable of being used with a detachable magazine which holds more than five cartridges

 I have an A-Category firearms licence and now own MSSAs. What should I do?

It would normally be an offence for an A-Category licence holder to possess an MSSA, punishable by up to three years in prison or a $4000 fine. However a transitional period gives time for people to comply with the law, if they take certain steps. The transitional period will be confirmed next month. Firearms owners who unlawfully possess an MSSA now have three options:

  • Voluntarily surrender the firearm to Police for safe disposal.
  • Complete an online form on the Police website to arrange for the MSSA to be collected, while details are finalised for compensation under a buy back scheme
  • Sell or gift the firearm to a person who has an E-Category licence and a ‘permit to procure’ the weapon
  1. Are Police geared up to receive large numbers of MSSAs?

Yes. They will work with the New Zealand Defence Force to enable safe storage, transport and destruction of MSSAs. Police are establishing an online form which will make it easier for firearms owners to arrange for Police to collect the MSSAs. The online form will go live over the weekend. It will not be practicable for firearms owners to physically return their weapons to Police stations without prior approval. Where extra administrative staff are required they will be hired on fixed-term contracts.

  1. Will this lead to stockpiling of semi-automatics?

No. The changes under the Order in Council take effect immediately. Anyone who now unlawfully has an MSSA, which yesterday was a lawful firearm, needs to take steps to comply with the law.

  1. Will some firearms dealers be breaking the law if they have these MSSAs in stock?

Some firearms dealers only hold A-category licences. In order to comply with the law, they could sell their stock of semi-automatics to a Category E licence holder or return them to their supplier.

  1. What are the statistics for firearms licences and firearms in circulation?
  • There are 245,000 firearms licences
  • Of these, 7,500 are E-Category licences; and 485 are dealer licences
  • There are 13,500 firearms which require the owner to have an E-Cat licence, this is effectively the known number of MSSAs before today’s changes
  • The total number of firearms in New Zealand is estimated to be 1.2-1.5 million
  1. What further issues are being considered?

Cabinet will consider further steps on 25 March. These will include measures to:

  • Tighten firearms licensing and penalties
  • Impose greater controls over a range of ammunition
  • Address a number of other issues relevant to special interest groups such as international sports shooters and professional pest controllers, such as DoC.
  • Future proof the Arms Act to ensure it is able to respond to developments in technology and society
  1. How will the buyback work, and who will administer it?

Police, the Treasury and other agencies are working through the detail. More information will be available when the legislation is introduced next month. The compensation will be fair and reasonable based on firearm type, average prices and the age of firearms.

  1. What is the cost of the buyback likely to be?

That is very difficult to judge, given the limited information about the total number of firearms affected by this change. Preliminary advice suggests it could be in the range of $100m-$200m. The buyback will ensure these weapons are taken out of circulation and that we fulfil our obligations under the law.

 

The Law

2019/55

Coat of Arms of New Zealand

Arms (Military Style Semi-automatic Firearms) Order 2019

Patsy Reddy, Governor-General

Order in Council

At Wellington this 21st day of March 2019

Present:
Hon Grant Robertson presiding in Council

This order is made under section 74A(c) of the Arms Act 1983 on the advice and with the consent of the Executive Council.

Order

1Title

This order is the Arms (Military Style Semi-automatic Firearms) Order 2019.

2Commencement

This order comes into force at 3 pm on 21 March 2019.

3Certain semi-automatic firearms declared to be military style semi-automatic firearms

For the purposes of the Arms Act 1983, the following firearms are declared to be military style semi-automatic firearms:

(a)

a semi-automatic firearm that is capable of being used in combination with a detachable magazine (other than one designed to hold 0.22-inch or less rimfire cartridges) that is capable of holding more than 5 cartridges:

(b)

a semi-automatic firearm that is a shotgun and that is capable of being used in combination with a detachable magazine that is capable of holding more than 5 cartridges.

Michael Webster,
Clerk of the Executive Council.

Explanatory note

This note is not part of the order, but is intended to indicate its general effect.

This order, which comes into force at 3 pm on 21 March 2019, declares the following firearms to be military style semi-automatic firearms:

  • a semi-automatic firearm that is capable of being used in combination with a detachable magazine (other than one designed to hold 0.22-inch or less rimfire cartridges) that is capable of holding more than 5 cartridges:

  • a semi-automatic firearm that is a shotgun and that is capable of being used in combination with a detachable magazine that is capable of holding more than 5 cartridges.

This order is a confirmable instrument under section 47B of the Legislation Act 2012. It is revoked at the close of 30 June 2020, unless earlier confirmed by an Act of Parliament. That stated time is the applicable deadline under section 47C(1)(a) of the Legislation Act 2012.

Issued under the authority of the Legislation Act 2012.

Date of notification in Gazette: 21 March 2019.

This order is administered by the New Zealand Police.

 

45 responses to “Tyrant Prime Minister Kills Sport Shooting”

  1. Why didn’t they use the Order in Council sooner? When the 2012 Amendment happened I wondered to myself, “okay next they’ll make all AR15’s into MSSAs”. They didn’t, they waited until this happened! Where were you Greg O’Connor? Why didn’t you take this to the Labour Leadership?

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  2. A very sad day, absolutely sickening that no democratic process was followed. Hand over guns before payment, thats a tui add right there.
    What about the value of all accessories on said gun, and the cabinet?
    Ive got a tube fed semi shotgun as a mssa, i should be able to return it to a 5 shot Acat and keep it?
    What about the thousands of unregistered ARs,?
    Sport shooters with Ecat licences have jumped though the hoops required to own these and we are the first group to be screwed over.
    Registration is the first step in confiscation.
    False flag gun grab.

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    1. 1. What about the cost of satisfying security requirements?
      Safes, and maybe the concrete floors and walls to mount them on
      that some of us had to pay for. Money back?

      2. How does this effect items that may be held by C Cat holders.

      3. If in a Service Rifle club are your guns now unlawful?

      4. Are B Cat holders effected?

      So many questions. A disgrace, a law drafted in haste!

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    2. It looks like the shotgun used in the killings is unaffected. Only removable magazines.

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      1. Any semi-auto shotgun capable of holding more than 5 rounds becomes an MSSA?

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      2. Depends how you read it. Hopeless.

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      3. I will give I’m my large collection of AR15s but it will not be free each one is different and cost will be for each
        And if they want the suppressors and mags that’s extra
        And what’s the deal for extra uppers
        Only the lower is a firearm
        Lots of questions

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  3. Do you think welding our magazines in place will satisfy the requirements for making our guns non MSSA’s provided we place a block or something under the springs so that we don’t have 7 round magazines.

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    1. The NZ Police FAQ saus modifying a (now) MSSA in an attempt to make it lawful is out:

      “Can I modify my firearm that has been reclassified so it is lawful?

      No.”

      https://www.police.govt.nz/advice/firearms-and-safety/changes-firearms/firearms-changes-faqs

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      1. Interesting question, what happens in respect to semi auto purpose built Hunting rifles like my mates Browning BAR 270 cal with a 4 round detachable magazine?

        This legislation appears to be specifically written to be ambiguous, I highly doubt neither the police or firearms owners alike will be able to work out what the legislation actually means.

        This legislation appears to have been written by somebody who is a real special kind of stupid.

        On a positive note, this legislation is consistently substandard so up to the usual standards this Government has done to date.

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  4. This political reaction in New Zealand is really naive.

    Laws or outright bans didn’t stop the Bataclan or Charlie Hebdo shootings in Paris ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting ) or the Brussels museum shooting ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Museum_of_Belgium_shooting ).
    Neither did the strict gun laws in Sweden stop the shootings or hand grenade explosions on the streets in Sweden ( https://www.thelocal.se/20190131/sweden-crime-stats-fatal-shootings-in-2018-stockholm-malmo-gothenburg , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden ).
    So, why would the suggested gun ban and buy-back scheme work as intended in New Zealand? It didn’t even work as intended in Australia: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3086324
    The stricter gun laws in Australia are sometimes promoted as a model for others to follow. However, illegal guns are still present in Australia. Based on this information, it is logical to assume that mass shootings in Australia are not common despite the continued presence of now-illegal firearms in Australia: https://theconversation.com/regulating-people-not-just-guns-might-explain-australias-decline-in-mass-shootings-44770

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  5. Sorry I’m a little confused, I have my E cat, if I pin my sks mag to hold 5 rounds can I keep it? I’m assuming that’s what they mean by a non removable mag?

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    1. This is the 72hr knee-jerk. It is intended to stop mass buying of scary black guns (but not magazines?). It won’t affect your today E-cat (because it just makes today A-cat into E-cat).

      On 16 April, The Select Committee will come back with the 3wk knee-jerk. It will affect your today E-cat as bancinda grabs all the semi-autos and as many other guns she can.

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    2. Hi Mr. Doe. Nobody knows. Ask your arms officer.

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  6. Wow you guys better start learning Farsi. Or march in the streets with your weapons. Your wives and daughters need to lube up before leaving the house. It will hurt less when the lawless attack them…

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  7. you’re doing better than us in oz, at least you still have .22 semis and tube mag shottys. I forsee huge sales of poly pipe and end caps. really try to avoid registration if you can fight for it, only leads to confiscation. hand them in before compensation is sorted? don’t think so.

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  8. Alice de Janze Avatar
    Alice de Janze

    This poorly drafted response is nothing less than a capitulation to terrorism since the government is doing exactly what the shooter hoped for in his manifesto.

    And as for making New Zealand safer, pull the other one, it’s got bells on.
    This government disgraces us all.

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  9. Jacinda does have one huge problem.
    In an attempt to allow waterfowl hunting shotguns they have allowed up to 5 rounds in a non detachable mag.
    Alas Jac, most semi auto shotguns in every duck blind in NZ have a nominal capacity of greater than 5 rounds, 6-8 average. Of course I plug mine to 2 because I hunt more than shoot. But plugging isn’t relevant.
    You’ll be doing a rethink on this as we speak.

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    1. Your it doesn’t effect me I don’t care attitude will leave you all alone when they finally come for your guns.

      You either stand for all responsible shooters rights or like yourself you cower in the corner an whimper “please not mine as well “

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  10. Very sad day for NZ. But you think that’s it:?

    Read this

    “While New Zealand’s gun laws are currently looser than Australia’s, Ms Lee says the lever-action weapon in the possession of the alleged Christchurch shooter is legally available here under the two lowest gun license categories.

    Military-style bolt-action and lever action shotguns have crept into the market of weapons available to category A and B licences, GCA says.

    It wants Prime Minister Scott Morrison to immediately ask national security agencies to review what type of weapons are available under each licence category. The Firearms Industry Reference Group – which GCA says is “pro-guns” – should not be involved in the review, and any findings should be made publicly available.”

    Military-style bolt action – you heard it.

    Snark aside, there it is: an attempt to ban bolt action firearms.

    This should serve as a wake-up call for those Stockholm Syndrome type-fudds out there who think your Model 70’s and 700’s are safe. They aren’t and they want those too. She’s also coming back for a second bite at the lever actions.

    The point here is they are trying to find an “in” and deploy the same salami tactics we have seen over and over again.

    More importantly, this should serve as yet another warning to our Kiwi brethren over the ditch. This is what awaits you should you cave in to the demands of the anti-gun crowd. They aren’t stopping with registration and taking your semi-autos, they’re going for everything and this is the first serious attempt in over 30 years. Airsoft, suppressors, calibre restrictions, magazines, etc are all under fire unless you stand together.

    You exported Philip Alpers here because he failed miserably in New Zealand. Do you really want us to send him back to you?

    Don’t become Australia.

    Sam Lee uses Christchurch tragedy to attempt bolt action ban

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    1. “Military-style bolt action”….is what, a SMLE 303, Mauser 1896 or something….?
      Relax….he’s just another firearm illiterate using language he doesn’t understand. he thinks he sounds all over it technically.
      It’s just babble.

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      1. Yes, precisely, ie all our Service rifle shooters using guns 70+ yrs old lol

        Hopefully the Govt won’t be swayed by such stupidity….though a Federal election must be held before May, so who knows what a conservative Govt decidely on the nose might do.

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  11. I hope this gets poor compliance . The best response to this is a big middle finger to this disgrace of a beaureaucracy

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    1. Remember that much of firearm legislation is guilty until proven innocent.

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    2. Me too. Alas our PM Joh Howard had (and still has) a deep personal personal fear and hatrred of firearms and the demonisation started straight away with this kind of rhetoric at thee time of our mass shooting in 1996:

      ““We will find any means we can to further restrict them because I hate guns. I don’t think people should have guns, unless they are police, or in the military or security industry. Ordinary citizens should not have weapons. We do not want the American disease imported into Australia.”

      Such was the rabid climate of the times. with all media piggybacking on Howard’s panic-stricken line, that firearm owners who didn’t even have semi autos turned them in (and the vast majority handed in were se,i .22 ‘bunny busters’, not centrefires)

      You have the opportunity to not comply, and show your numbers (double the % ownership in Australia)

      We are all deeply sorry regarding this decision and hope that you can make some headway.

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  12. Mary McCracken Avatar
    Mary McCracken

    These are the ‘experts’ they had on Tv1 calling for gun control ~ Dr Hera Cook – she knows heaps about vulvas & cosmetic genital surgery but not alot on firearms.
    https://www.otago.ac.nz/healthsciences/expertise/profile/index.html?id=1362

    Also this one, an expert on English Literature, Marie Russell an anti-smoking and transportation agenda21 expert, who even drafted a preliminary wish list –
    http://sustainablecities.org.nz/members/marie-russell/

    They recommend the following:
    1. An immediate moratorium on sales, imports and advertising of semi-automatics while changes are decided.
    2. Within a limited period of time, removal of semi-automatics from dealers to police custody.
    3. Within a limited period of time, checks by Police on the owners and storage of all semi-automatics and pistols. Police know who most of these people are because these types of firearms currently must be registered – unlike other firearms.

    Looking to the longer term, legislation should include:

    4. A ban on all private ownership of semi-automatic firearms in New Zealand.
    5. An amnesty or buy-back with compensation to owners of banned firearms.
    6. A register of all firearms.
    7. Three or five-year licensing of firearms owners (currently 10 years).

    To achieve lasting change in the firearms laws, the researchers believe that concerted action is needed:
    8. An all-party commitment to these basic gun control measures.

    “For too long, firearms policy has been dictated by an active and influential gun lobby, whose vocal members have dissuaded governments from making meaningful changes. More than 20 years ago, the gun lobby ensured that recommendations of the detailed 1997 Thorp Report were not adopted. Firearms groups have generally resisted any change, apparently on principle,” says Dr Russell.

    Firearms owners comprise about 5% to 6% of the population. Their activities are subsidised by the tax payer. For example, while each licenced firearms owner must pay $126.50 once every ten years for a standard A Category licence (to own rifles, shotguns etc.), the actual cost to NZ Police of administering the entire licensing system is over $11 million per year. More than half of this is paid by the taxpayer. The cost to Police of administering firearms imports is entirely absorbed by the Police budget: no fee is charged for administering applications to import firearms, restricted weapons or firearms parts.

    “Because taxpayers are subsidising firearms owners, it’s time for taxpayers to have more of a say in firearms policy and law,” according to Dr Russell.

    “Current systems are not working: and we are thinking about the 50 or so gun suicides that occur each year, as well as the people shot this week in Christchurch.

    “Open arming of the police has been discussed recently. Overseas research suggests that when Police are openly armed, there are more shootings, both accidental and intentional, with ethnic minorities more at risk of police shootings. There are fears Māori are more likely to be targeted.”

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  13. The CHC shooter wrote in his manifesto:

    “I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra
    media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the
    politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world. The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state, social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines. With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to
    abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see
    this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty”

    Little could he have thought that he would be so successful in his aims aided by the NZ government no less. Now Bernie Sanders has chimed in so that in less than a week Tarrant has succeeded is spreading his poison to the USA as well. Who says terrorism can’t win?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111465565/world-reacts-to-new-zealands-new-gun-laws-after-christchurch-terror-attacks

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  14. Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong-un and now Ardern. Wow. You’re becoming part of a select group Ardern. Oppress the huge law abiding firearm population and their associated friends and family members. Oops, that’s a huge voting population.

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    1. Even though NZ has double the number firearms per capita (1 in 4 compared to 1 in 8 in Australia) the total overall is small and alas hardly a voting bloc that politicians really care about.

      In fact in Australia unless you commit that your Party is as “tough on guns” as possible you can expect to be monstered by the media and pretty much accused of being pro mass-shootings such is the poisonous anti gun climate which has been fostered here over the last 22 years. I can’t possibly imagine NZ getting this bad but we are keeping up all hope for you guys.

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  15. Here’s the big danger.
    Hunters of NZ’s magnificent big game animals / game birds will not be recognised as stakeholders.
    We will merely be licenced as “pest” shooters. Hunting will be totally devalued and marginalised.
    Oh how DoC will love that.
    “Many birds killed with one stone”, I believe is the aim

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    1. You don’t give a shit about any of us endorsed shooters. I can’t wait to see the smug shit eating grin wiped from your face when your duck gun is banned.

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    2. So far not bad at all.
      We all knew that MSSA were finished.
      Affects me not one little bit.

      So far not bad at all.
      We all knew that HUNTERS were finished.
      Affects me not one little bit.

      And you wonder why you wont get to keep your nice things when you throw others under a bus.

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      1. “Mandatory buyback” is actual confiscation of property without any actual crime being committed. And people (sheeple rather) applaud while this is happening because “politicians are doing something” even if it’s useless…
        I hope you guys will fight it and I’m pretty sure we’ll be next in Canada.

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  16. “Oops, that’s a huge voting population.”
    It used to be a large percentage of the voting population, but has been significantly watered down by all the immigrants and refugees that we have imported. Over a 1/4 of our population are foreign born. To quote the prime minister “New Zealand is a country comprising 200 ethnicities and 160 languages, she said”.
    That number of people are not going to be assimilated into your culture, but naturally congregate in ghettos of alien culture spread across our nation. This is the problem that will not be addressed by disarming your law-abiding citizens.

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  17. Has anyone any confirmations on this conspiracy theory:
    Upon taking power in early 2017, President Trump began crippling Five Eyes for its being complicit in the coup attempt against him—a move more than justified when later that year, in October-2017, Jacinda Ardern took power as the Prime Minister of New Zealand—that, in turn, allowed this former leader of the International Union of Socialist Youth (IUSY) to have complete control over this nation’s Five Eyes spying operations—a position she was groomed for after Hillary Clinton “took note” of Ardern while she was attending university in Arizona—then moved by Clinton to New York City so Ardern could join workers’ rights and poverty movements—that afterwards saw Clinton placing Ardern into the government of British Prime Minister Tony Blair—the culmination of which saw the radical socialist Arden being swept into power in New Zealand on a wave of what is now known as “Jacindamania”.

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  18. Jim Huffstutler Avatar
    Jim Huffstutler

    If the police wanted to register fire arms all they needed to do was look at the gun dealer’s log of sales as each gun sold by the dealer was entered. The police inspected the logs each year and signed them off. So why didn’t they just copy the information at the time. Also Land Transport requires a police report for anyone applying for a “P” endorsement for carrying passengers from every country that they lived in since the age of 12, this shows that a separate agency for issuing licenses is much more efficient than the current arrangements.

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  19. We are all disappointed by mad socialist dictator style tactics employed by the Prime Minister yesterday, but if nothing else, it’s time to wake up and start taking action to gain control of the situation.

    Sure we are all probably disappointed and angry and just want to vent. So, let’s vent our disappointment and anger, but do so in a proactive and positive manner. Telling politicians and the media to “F…Off” may make you feel good, but it certainly won’t help our cause.

    Let’s start with some basic proactive measures we can all employ.

    Firstly, let’s focus upon the Judas types. You know, those bottom feeders in business who’ve been draining our wallets for years, yet were the first to openly support the Prime Minister.

    As an example Hunting & Fishing stores. Their CEO, Darren Jacobs, was among the first to be Out There, Doing It (to customers), not only calling for semi-auto bans, but also banning all online sales, and calling for firearms registration.

    I suspect Mr Jacobs is lining himself up to be an “industry expert” to consult the Prime Minister, but moreover seeks to probably profiteer by eliminating competition from other online sellers.

    Simple solution, STOP PURCHASING from Hunting & Fishing stores throughout New Zealand.

    Send a polite, but brief letter to your local Hunting & Fishing Store Manager, simply advising you’ll no longer be purchasing anything from their store. These stores are essentially franchisees, so this will hit them where it hurts most.

    Important Note: call your local store and ask for the owner / managers direct email address. If you send an email via the generic Hunting & Fishing email address, that will probably only reach the likes of Mr Jacobs, and will be ignored.

    Sure the local store owner / manager may be a great person, but the brand name he’s supporting, is complicit in the wholesale destruction of sports shooting in New Zealand. When they are loosing massive financial sales through being associated with the tainted Hunting & Fishing brand, maybe they may wish reconsider being aligned to that brand name.

    In simple mathematical terms, if just 1000 customers spending an average of $500 each stop spending at a particular store, then that’s $500000 being wiped from that stores business. If a 5000 customers stopped spending $500 each, then that’s $2500000……that’s really going hurt store owners big time.

    Maybe the 30 pieces of silver Hunting & Fishing received from playing Judas may help their bottom line, as they sure as S–t won’t be getting another cent from me.

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    1. “lining himself up to be an “industry expert” to consult the Prime Minister”
      The Oz experience was that such as he end up being employed as consulting experts at the buyback centres.

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  20. ‘Rural shooters are OK’
    They said that in Australia & then put the boot in.

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    1. Bluemoonrising Avatar
      Bluemoonrising

      Went in Ballingers H&F store in Christchurch, staff have either been told to lie to customers, or the staff have no idea what their CEO has said.
      My guess, words getting round and the poo shower is starting rain down on H&F.
      Serves the buggers right, hope it costs them big time.

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    2. Is that why Howard wore that bleedingly obviously ill-fitting bulletproof vest to the meeting of farmers in country Sale in VIC, making sure the cameraman got the light angled just right on it so it stood out like dog’s balls lol

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  21. Moving Forward….

    Over coming weeks, some of the more organised firearms associations will focus upon taking the fight to Wellington. Sadly other groups will watch from the sidelines, thinking these laws won’t affect us.

    Unfortunately for the latter groups, they will soon learn how hard core socialist groups and the Government has us all within their sights. I lived through the Australian gun laws fiasco, so trust me, no firearms related sporting activity will be safe.

    Kiwi sporting shooters will soon learn, the only way to bring about change, is to get politically active and force change. In other words, employ the same political tactics as are being employed against us.

    Our current Prime Minister is at best economical with the truth, based upon yesterday’s political stunt, others may suggest she’s an outright liar.

    In truth, it matters little at this present juncture, the people are waking up to our Prime Minister, and indeed the hapless Government she leads.

    Even political commentators who once gave her the benefit of the doubt, are now starting to critically critique this seemingly dysfunctional Prime Minister and Government. Recently we heard the term ” jandles” used to describe her polical style, as she just flip flopped about making noise, but achieving little else.

    Now the Sweetheart Deal with NZ First is heading south big time. NZ First shot themselves in the foot with this foolhardy arrangement, and now it’s time we take advantage of the situation.

    If polls are correct, NZ First are history, polling at just 2.9%. This is not even enough to get into parliament if an election were called tomorrow. Given their ongoing betrayal to law abiding firearms owners yesterday, I’d suggest those polling figures have now fallen through the floor.

    So what do we do….

    Firstly, stop sulking and get in front of a keyboard. Fire off some polite, but firm emails to both Deputy Prime Minister Peters, and Defence Minister Mark. If you want to go the fully monty, send the email to all NZ First politicians.

    1. Express your disappointment with the abhorrent manner they allowed the Prime Minister to bypass political process to force through Emergency Orders.

    2. Politely but strongly request they immediately terminate the agreement with the Labour Party, the fore allowing the integrity of democratic process to be exercised.

    In other words, time for a new general election, allowing the people to vote again on the right to democracy, not the current dictatorship pathway upon which our nation is heading.

    NZ First in laymans terms, are pretty much screwed, and have limited options left available.

    They can either walk away and try to salvage whatever credibility they have remaining with the electorate, or keep maintaining the status quo and propping up this illegitimate Goverment.

    Apparently there are suggestions up to 3 oelected NZ First politicians are near readdinessmto split ranks. Not much else known at this stage, so no sense fanning the flames of conjecture until more facts emerge.

    This is where writing to NZ First politicians may have some success. You see, if they fail to exist as a party, then a whole lot of NZ First politicians and employees will be looking for jobs in the near future.

    Words of advice…be polite and non threatening when corresponding with politicians. Get your point across firmly by all means, but don’t get offensive or use bad language.

    Lastly, don’t hold your breath waiting for a reply. I think at present NZ First politicians are, ducking, diving and weaving all over the place. I mean in the middle of this crisis, Deputy Prime Minister Peters scarpers off on some overseas hand-holding exercise.

    Funny, but I thought that was the reason we had foreign embassy’s and ambassadors in New Zealand was for direct dialogue with foreign Governments.

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  22. “Even though NZ has double the number firearms per capita (1 in 4 compared to 1 in 8 in Australia) the total overall is small and alas hardly a voting bloc that politicians really care about.”

    Nonsense. Nothing could be further from the truth.
    Jac and Labour are apprehensive about firearm owners and their vote.
    That’s why you didn’t get marxist inspired new laws today, you got a Royal Commission.

    245,000 firearms licences and 2,700,000 registered voters means 9% of voters hold firearms licences.
    Half of that percentage in a voting block, 4.5%, can easily swing a general election in NZ.

    Labour know it.
    Cheer up.

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