Police Caught In Bare Faced Lies

Unbelievable.

The Kiwi Gun Blog heard of a nuisance raid on a firearms dealer. During this farce – that we will cover soon – we were told that the Police left 17 AR rifles on the lawn and drove off.

We asked the Police media service to check and give comment. Was this true?

McIlraith – as we write on his national tour of better communication and transparency – interfered and denied us any comment. Insisting that the matter be treated as an Official Information Act request. With the accompanying delay.

Then came a denial of information on the grounds that a disciplinary investigation was under way.

Then – only after media coverage stirred up by the Blog – a denial that the incident had happened at all. But worded strangely…

Then a follow up admission that the raid HAD happened but another region had served the warrant. Hence the deceptive wording.

Then came more chasing and more involvement from the ombudsman’s office.

Finally a statement declaring that no firearms were left.

The incident just didn’t happen.

The Blog called the detective who had made the statement. He said that the lawyer involved had been lied to. No guns were left.

We then asked SPECIFICALLY about receivers. Were they left? The detective said they were not guns. We corrected him. Of course they are. We asked again. He denied that any receivers were left behind either.

This stalled us. It was a flat denial. We then had to wait for the IPCA complaint that the victim’s lawyer had laid to produce fruit.

Then we get this…..

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Sure. Just conspire to lie some more.

When the Kiwi Gun Blog talks about the contempt for shooters that is now a culture in the Arms Management area – THIS is what we are talking about.

Keep this in mind when Slick Mike is double talking at the current meetings with shooters.

Do try to get along to your region’s event and ask McIlraith how this is in any way acceptable.

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Be Lawful!!

Here is conformation of the law received today.

Do NOT try on the grasping interpretation used above or you will face jail.

A lower receiver is a firearm in the eyes of the law.

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To Remove All Doubt….

Here is the same crooked detective responding to another shooter’s Official Information Act Request:

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Number two is a bare face lie.

But isn’t it sweet how they look out for one another…..

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Oh did we mention…

Mark Osborn works in Police Professional Conduct.

We have laid a formal complaint with IPCA.

UPDATE 20th June

What a difference a day makes….

The day after we lodge a formal complaint to the IPCA about this liar he ‘Received new information’.

That would be the SAME information that he admitted having at least by the 23rd April.

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UPDATE 27.8.2018

Here is the result of our IPCA complaint:

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Right.

So we imagined the email chain above of him colluding with the Police armorer to deceive us?

No accountability.

Contempt for shooters is once again demonstrated.

UPDATE 9.4.2018

This from Inspector Steven Clark, Police Professional Conduct Manager:

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The Kiwi Gun Blog replied to confirm that his man DID state that the victim of this nonsense had lied to his lawyer. I took notes of the conversation and asked him to repeat it. He did so.

He also payed games with the definition of a firearm THEN. I got him to state that no parts OF ANY KIND were forgotten. He said that they were not.

Nothing in this or previous replies addresses the email chain involving Osbourne colluding with the police armorer. It states in plain english that yes, Police had found that the receivers WERE left but asked could he get away with denying it on a technicality.

His lies did Police damage.

IPCA doing nothing when we proved his deceit did more.

His boss covering for him now does still more.

This case has been circulated widely and MANY have voiced the opinion that not only can the police not be trusted to deal fairly but will then also fail to police themselves when abuses are discovered.

If Inspector Clark is happy with that state of affairs – so be it. We all know that there is nothing that shooters can do about it.

There is now a culture of casual deception and abuse of power in the arms section. That is the gateway to serious corruption.

The only question here is how many people were involved in lying to this ‘investigation’.

 

The Final Word

The IPCA decision is as follows:

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Lying rats.

The Kiwi Gun Blog were informed that our own complaint against the officers for lying to us was not upheld. It was all a misunderstanding apparently.

We were told that the early ‘investigation’ by Police did not involve even speaking to the victim who made the complaint.

So they could not get the pictures that he took of the guns in Police evidence bags.

So they didn’t know the officer they were dealing with was lying. Sorry, was confused.

We asked the IPCA investigator what more evidence we could supply than an email chain discussing collusion. But to no avail. What a joke.

The Police lied. Then more Police – in charge of the conduct of other police – lied. Then were investigated by other police – in charge of monitoring their conduct – who let them off.

 

 

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8 responses to “Police Caught In Bare Faced Lies”

  1. Rules for them and others for us?

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      1. Only to punish, not to help, it would seem.

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  2. This needs to go to up. The police minister, ombudsmen and the media

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  3. OMG the interpretations change based on who it relates to. What at joke anyway its nice to have a letter from the senior police armourer stating that a lower is not a firearm.

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  4. attention christchurch . its next tuesday (19th) at the rsa at armagh st.
    be there, be polite, be courteous but give those b…rds hell

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  5. Ngamoki no longer works for the police? Say it’s not so, he was a legend (in his own mind). Has KGB done an obituary for him? The tales that need to be told..

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  6. Retired with secret handshake.. Hatsan wall hanging, ruler and box of various length shells..Wares Walley?

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