Police Aware that 29 Gang Members Have Gun Licenses

One of the most stunning revelations of the Law and Order committee report was that the Police are aware of nearly thirty organised crime figures having gun licenses.

Yet seem to be taking little action.

From the Report

Gang members and prospects

The evidence indicates that unlawful firearms possession and use is an integral aspect of gang culture in New Zealand. In 2014, the Police analysed 3,969 patched members and prospects belonging to 32 New Zealand adult gangs.

They looked at the proportion charged with a serious violence offence involving a firearm or an offence against the Arms Act. The analysis showed that 44 percent of the members and prospects had been charged with an offence involving a firearm, and that 9 percent had been charged with five or more offences involving a firearm during their lifetime.

In April 2016, the Police identified 29 firearm licence holders who were members of a New Zealand adult gang. Six of these licences have since been revoked or surrendered.

Our View

Surely to God this is a risk so great that the Police should simply stop what they are doing and not rest until these licenses are revoked.

Why punish 250,000 innocent people in the hopes of preventing gangs getting guns – when it is known that you allow the gangs themselves to simply go shopping!

The Kiwi Gun Blog are aware of shooters being declined licenses because of drink driving incidents decades before. That disqualifies them as being a ‘Fit and proper person’.

So how does being a CURRENT member of an organised crime group not?

It was our understanding that even an association was enough to decline or revoke a license.

This is quite, quite mad.

Oh and those 44% of gang members with previous gun offences…

If they had been treated seriously then nearly half of our worst offenders would be in prison. What would the crime stats look like then?

The bottom line is that the Police are using proof of their failing and the courts failings to demand that WE suffer. Shameless.

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6 responses to “Police Aware that 29 Gang Members Have Gun Licenses”

  1. Absolutely outrageous!

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  2. but But BUT … Police’s hands are tied they NEED so much MORE power … like warrantless searches of …………

    The law abiding LFAO!

    Any credibility they or certain politicians had left has just evapourated.

    WE know who the enemy is … and it is NOT us …

    Time for a clean out both at Pol Nat HQ and Parliament.

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  3. Absolutely beyond comprehension. They want more power more laws. There’s rules in place since 1983 and they don’t follow them. The fit and proper person says it all.

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    1. yep. even association should be enough

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  4. The difficulty is defining ‘gangs’ as they do not have membership lists!

    The basic tennent of ‘freedom of association’ rears it head also so that defining a ‘gang’ in Law in a way that does not including membership of the Police … and for that matter of a political party … is simply beyond legislating precisely enough.

    Also a ‘blanket policy’ of denying certain groups a F/L also unlawfully fetters the discretion of the vetting officer/licence issuer as each and every determination of fit & properness needs must be done on an individual basis – determining the merits of every case on its own.

    While 44% of adult gang members have convictions that leaves 56% who do not … and are therefore NOT “criminals” though one of the precepts of determination of fit & properness is the association with criminals and/or those who have had a F/L revoked.

    EVERYONE must be treated equally under the law or else Police can begin denying members of groups they simply ‘dislike’ the issue of firearms licences … like maybe members of a Pistol Club which banned them from their range – for instance … or perhaps Jews?

    Many of us think we ‘know’ what a gang/gan member/gang prospect is … but the devil is in the detail when crafting such discriminatory legislation.

    These restrictions stray in to prior restraint and pre-emption where persons not guilty of any crime are targeted …

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    1. The Blog maintain that if criminals are put in jail for gun crimes – this becomes academic and unnecessary. You raise some very strong points.

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